Lots of people have asked me about the relationship between the guru and student, especially the place of love. In this video you see four teachers, in order: Chetananda, Shankarananda, Andrew Cohen and Master Charles. All, I think including Cohen, are a product of Muktananda. Notice in the end one of them begins to talk about love and its transient nature, but how true love is everlasting.
I post this video only because Sw. Shankarananda almost was going to share a satsang with us in June, and one of my students researched him and his associates on the web.
Please, just listen to what they say and the distinctions and complaints they make. Our student said, "I have never heard such whining and complaining."
Watch the video two or three times. Ponder what they say and give feedback.
I disagree with much if not all of what they say. I do not see a dichotomy between spiritual and human, personal and transcendent. I just don't see it. Nor do I see what Cohen claims is taking place: The guru is taking on the karmic burden of a disciple just by listening to complaints. Nor do I see as true, at least for me, seeing myself as set apart or different from my students. Nor do I feel I have to stand back and act in some role being careful of what I say, and holding back. Nor do I feel dumped on. Our satsang family does not appear to dump, nor do I feel I am taking on their burdens in any way. I feel equal. I see no difference between me and any student. When I look at you, I see myself. When I look at you I see deeper than your personality, thinking and problems. I see me at a deep level of consciousness. And we share that mutual recognition.
I don't feel any of what these guys are talking about. So, I guess I am not a guru. I am Ed and I love you. I do agree though that both student and teacher are transformed in a relationship not only of love, but more deeply a kind of grace that consciousness, more accurately, the self showers on the self during satsang and within our spiritual family. I feel the transformative effects in me due to these interactions, and I both see and hear of transformations happening within our community. Everyone feels embraced and as if they are going deeper into themselves, and it produces both happiness and peace. All these other comments about the bitter role of the poor, put upon guru, to me are pure bull.
At our next satsang I will discuss some of this.