21 August 2014

Levels of false and "real" Self-Realizations

     There are so many people that claim to be awakened. So many.  But for most there has been no awakening at all, just an understanding they got from someone else, like Tony Parsons, Sailor Bob, Pundaji, Ben Massaro, Lisa Cairns, Balsekar, or many others.  

     The message of no self, no separate self, emptiness, presence or newness can be a message that you hear from someone else, or it can be an achievement earned after years of meditation and inward investigation.

       The former talk about no separate self and how that insight has changed them, but it is only book knowledge for them.

     When you receive the message of No-Self, or no separate self, because you have dwelled in the inner emptiness, the Void, for some years, and that Void has come alive with light, all objects in your reality appear hollow and unreal, and one day you have a Satori realizing Unity Consciousness without a separation into inner and outer awareness.  

     That is a real awakening because your awareness has expanded, and by expansion, has realized that Consciousness is not just a present awareness of external and internal objects embedded within an inner and outer emptiness, but that Form and Emptiness interpenetrate, and neither is real or unreal without the other.

     As a helpful aide, I recommend reading “Progressive Stages of Meditation on Emptiness” by Khenpo Tsultrim Gyamtso Rimpche.  This text could help you quicken your mediation depth.

     You see, the bevy of 20 and 30 year old teachers really have nothing but an insight into Non-Self and not its constant experience as a reality that is like a hologram. They are just ordinary people with a one-trick insight:  Just realize there is no Self, nothing is real. There is no Self to be realized or awakened, just dwell in your present experience.

    But this level of understanding has to be transcended. You have to realize yourself as the knower of both the known and unknown, the world, and the Unmanifest within which the world is created and destroyed.

       In this realization, you know that you are altogether beyond Consciousness.  Consciousness just comes to you and covers you, and thus creates the world until you have the Emptiness to see the hollowness of the world and Consciousness.

      You, who experiences Consciousness, recognizes that it is made from a different "material" than you.  You lie in a different dimension, so to speak, entirely separate from Consciousness which is only an illusion.

     These real awakenings are experiential first, and then become insight or knowledge.  The first stage of awakening outlined initially above, is not a real awakening, it is only grasped and internalized second-hand knowledge of  what the first awakening is really like.

     Lastly, there is a return to the body and world. One becomes awakened to one’s own inner energies experienced with one’s own body as a separate energy body, called the Subtle Body or Energy Body.  Within that body is the felt sense of ‘I Am’.  But you cannot become deeply aware of the  I Am until you have returned enough to the body to become a complete master of emotions and the Energy Body’s energies.

       This is called the path of the Saints.  This is the path Nisargadatta treaded before he became a Jnani and denied the reality of I Am.  This is the path of Tantra, Kashmir Shaivism, of bliss, joy, aliveness and overflowing energies.

      One cannot be called spiritually advanced unless they have walked both paths: Emptiness and the Absolute, and Love, Bliss, and Shakti.

      The only other teachers that I have read that explicitly suggests this is Jan Essman, who states one can have walked the path of the Saint first, or of Emptiness first, and Bernadette Roberts who was a saint first then a Jnani.  But one has to walk both to be truly advanced.

       Nisargadatta walked both: first the path of the Saint which he describes in his first book, “Self-Knowledge and Self-Realization,” and then the path of the Unmanifest of his later talks, crystalized in "Consciousness and the Absolute."  In his first book he talks of energies and the need to master them, attaining Krishna Consciousness, along with devotion to Krishna and his guru.  Later he talks about going beyond the manifest self which he considered an illusion.

        Bernadette Roberts too walked first the path of joy, bliss and the saint, and then of the disappearing of herself into emptiness, the Void without love and bliss.

       If a teacher only talks about everyday life, and not of inner things, like the vast inner emptiness, or the Light of Consciousness, or of a holographic universe, or of unending bliss and joy, of internal healing energies, and streams of colored prana within their bodies, they really are just teaching you about the first step towards Unity Consciousness through the disappearance of boundaries by seeing through concepts and stories.  But they cannot give that experience of awakening to you because they do not live it.  They are teachers of that which they do not know.

      You just have received second hand knowledge of your true inner life, which is no more than philosophy.

      I recommend you go with teachers who have spent a long, long time in one tradition and mastered it, like a confirmed Zen master, or Tibetan Lama, or a Shaivite master like Sw. Chetanananda, or Shinzen Young, a fellow monk from IBMC.  Otherwise you are just kind of foolish, falling for instant enlightenment teachings.

      The youngsters are popular because they are shallow, and tell people there is no need to struggle for years for awakening, because you are already awakened.

      Once, during one of Robert’s Satsangs, a fellow asked Robert, “Why should I follow you and meditate and practice Self-inquiry, if I don’t exist and everything is an illusion?”

      Robert responded, “Then wake yourself up now! Realize it now!”  The guy was still with Robert three years later when Robert left for Sedona.

    There are no ancient traditions that promise instant enlightenment, or 3-5 second enlightenment.  This is the disease of current Neo-Advaita, secondary to the massive number of people Papaji said were enlightened.  Ramesh Balsekar too fostered this misunderstanding by placing a very low bar of merely understanding Nisargadatta's Jnana teachings, and not focusing at all on self-inquiry, meditation, working with energies, love, surrender, and bliss.

      If you think the Self is an illusion, all practices are moot. And, if you think the Self is an illusion, you will never, ever, find it.

17 August 2014

ONLINE SATSANG TODAY, SUNDAY AUGUST 17, 2PM CALIFORNIA TIME

LIVE ONLINE SATSANG TODAY, AUGUST 17, 2PM CALIFORNIA TIME:

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SUBJECT:  The Self, Your Self, My Self.

When you first discover who you are, the experience blows your sox off.  Finally, after a lifetime of knowing nothing for certain, you suddenly know who and what you are, and it is not your body.  You are  that "electricity," that "energy," that "Life Force" and pure sentience at the center of your universe.

You are flowing energy and the Center of all.  You are pure knowledge, pure cognition, knowingness, bliss and ecstatic energies; the universe is lighted and experienced through you.

AFTER SELF-REALIZATION, ALL THAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE SELF.  LIKE RAMANA, YOUR ATTENTION BECOMES FIXATED ON THIS INNER SELF, SHAKTI ALIVE.

12 August 2014

Selflessness as Pathology

The inability to perceive a self within, either of the psychological or spiritual sort, is pathology, a severe limitation to understanding ourselves and the world around us.

Those who hold there is no separate self, or worse, No-Self at all, are caught in an ideology that extols the experience of emptiness or of total fieldness, unicity,  over human emotionality, morality, and empathy.  Without access to a total range of emotions, especially of loss, attached love, anger, jealousy, and fear, also miss the ability to feel complete, whole, actualized, and deeply empathic contact with other peoples' problems and pain.

The two most powerful men I have ever met, most influential on me, were Robert Adams and Carl Rogers.  Robert held that self was Consciousness.  He did not identify with anything human as self.  Robert was mostly  beyond the world, apparently untouched by it, and thus dwelling in the peacefulness of no-identification with it.

I only met Carl Rogers once while taking a workshop on person-centered psychotherapy in 1981 or 1982.  He was 80 years old at the time and had just lost his wife a half year before.

When he entered the room, it went instantly silent.  His presence was heavy, like a body/mind weighted down by 10,000 years of emotional experiences.   I felt that I was in the presence of the most powerful human being I had ever met.

His words were slow, measured, and each carried immense ‘weight’. I can’t really explain what  mean by that except his presence was so powerful  that is forced our attention to his every movement and word.

His words were always about the practicality of functioning as a human and psychotherapist within a context of human limitation.  

When he spoke of losing his wife, he very gently cried a few tears, and the entire room cried with him.  His groundedness in being human was so powerful that empathically he involved everyone in the room; he dragged us  all into the feeling of loss and perhaps a bit of despair at losing the love of his life.  There was a feel of sacredness in being in the presence of his depth.

While Robert was a giant in his own way of being a being that was no longer of this world, Rogers was equally a giant by being completely embedded in the world and centered in the fragility of humanity. What courage to be so deeply vulnerable some thought, but we knew he was not being courageous at all; this was his natural state.

This is what is needed for this period in Western human development: the ability to be emotionally vulnerable, completely open  to what the heart is speaking to us from moment to moment in the languages of emotional subtlety and complete empathy to the other.

If you follow those who claim there is no self, either of the human sort, or the divine sentience within, you will largely be lost without a compassionate compass, adrift in a world you cannot comprehend because you cannot feel the totality of truth being offered to you by emotions, intuition, love and empathy.

This is why I say the neo-Advaitins have entirely missed the point by claiming no Self of any kind, human or transcendental.  I strongly feel they never have felt a true sense of self, and find the no-self philosophies much agree with their experience which attracts multitudes of others who also do not feel a self within.

They really don’t feel the symphony of emotions playing so elegantly moment to moment that inform us about ourselves and the world, and establish an empathic bond with others so necessary to create a world (or family, or neighborhood) of peaceful cooperation.

Many complain to me how I have abandoned Advaita, have become myself broken, neurotic, or a cult leader who has lost his way by abandoning the goal of identification with the Absolute.  But I have been there.  From 1995 onward Robert acknowledged his type of awakening in me when I perceived that Consciousness itself was an illusion, and I, as the ultimate witness was entirely beyond Consciousness, experience, the phenomenal.

But years passed until I found myself to be human again in a most wonderous experience of Self-Realization, both as a human being, but also as the divinity within me of basic sentience aligned with the Life Force, Shakti.  This is what I teach now.

Don’t try to sublimate, process, or change emotions within, no matter how painful they are. Emotions are the heart’s way of perceiving the world along with the development of a non-verbal intelligence that directly perceives the world and our own depths within: God, Love, Joy, bliss, as well as sorrow, and loss. 

10 August 2014

Email about finding the sense of I Am

Hi Ed,

Thank you once again for a peaceful Satsang . The chanting brought a very good and upbeat energy.

About where I'm at right now.I have had glimpses of the Self over the last years, including an experience a few weeks ago when I was full of a throbbing energy during sleep and felt as though the Self itself had come to take a look at this soul i am... I ( almost involuntarily) started chanting Om Namah Shivayah..and though I was scared ..yet felt i wanted to give in to the Source..but it didn't happen, something held me back.

Another time , probably last year, I was sitting in my living room and everything dissolved and there wasn't even time- just Nothing . A couple of years ago I woke up one morning and was one with everything- including my electric blanket..this Bliss lasted a couple of days.

I have a question and hope you can give me some advice
When I try to meditate and look inside for the source of " I AM" there seems to be nothing, and the mind comes rushing back in. What would you suggest I can do to hold on to this " I AM " and trace it back to the Heart?

Love
You have to find it first before you can hold onto it.

Look inside for the slightest sense that you exist.  See it as a spark or bit of electricity.

Read my new book and download for free from my website, http://wearesentience.com.

You have to do homework, and a lot of inner search.  Read my Hunting the I, also on that website.

Read also the Nisargadatta Gita and use it as a meditation manual. Read two paragraphs in the morning, ponder the meaning, then meditate on finding the I Am inside.  It is a feeling, not a thought or visual object. Then do the same in the evening, at least 2 hours before you go to sleep.

And realize this Self-Realization effort is a marathon and not a sprint.

Be patient and persistent.

Ed




ONLINE SATSANG TODAY, SUNDAY AUGUST 10, AT 2PM CALIFORNIA TIME.

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SUBJECT: MULTIDIMENSIONAL CONSCIOUSNESS

08 August 2014

The Ghost in the machine (body) is God

    There is an identity that has nothing to do with thought, beliefs, or concepts. That is the Self within that many believe does not exist because they have not found it by "looking" within.
But who said they Self can be found by looking, with an imaginary inner vision?
    
    There are no eyes inside, so who said the self could be "seen"?
It is felt, first as a sense that I exist. The more and more curious you get about that feeling, the more it grows, expands, and unfolds in various colors, energies and emotions. Then it tempts you and you learn to play with it.

    The Self is totally non-verbal, non-conceptual, non-belief, and it flows as light and energy from deep within when you get to know it.
It has power, it has non-verbal intelligence that reveals secrets of the Self.

    It has always been there, but if you have not searched for it, or believe it could exist so that you persist in searching, you will not find it.  You have to become increasingly sensitive to all aspects of your inner world, especially emotions, because emotions are closest in "feeling" to that of feeling the Self.  It is beyond the senses and only an inner sense of observational awareness that is attuned to energy, love, and emotional states will be able to find and experience the Self.

    If you do not believe such a Self can be found because others direct you to that conclusion, or you can't find it by looking within "imaginally," then you will never find that Self, your connection with divinity.

     Nisargadatta called it Bal-Krishna (Baby Krishna), or Krishna Consciousness which he found after three years of following the I Am sense. Ramana found it in a few minutes after he ignored his body and focused on the outpouring of his individuated consciousness from within, which he describes in his awakening experience.

    AND, listen to this, he said after he recognized the Self, the true 'I', he could never take his attention off of it. That is his small self became mesmerized and glued to his Self, Atman, God, in Krishna Consciousness.

    The experience of feeling/seeing that I Am come alive and be with you as a constant companion as a larger Self (Atman) is beyond anything else phenomenally.

     I know few believe this, but this has been my constant experience for years and is the gradually becoming the constant experience of some of my students who trust the Life energies within.

03 August 2014

Satsang today, Sunday, August 3, at 2PM California Time.

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Use the password  "edji" whenever asked.

If early, go to bottom of screen and listen to chants.


Mute you microphone to decrease bandwidth.

Love you!!!

02 August 2014

29 July 2014

JOSHU SASAKI ROSHI IS DEAD AT AGE 107!

The last of the great teachers of the Golden Age of Zen is dead.

All of that magnificent generation is gone: Kapleau, Kozan, Maezumi, Thien-An, Seung Sahn. All dead.

Sasaki was among the greatest.

But Westerners seem obsessed with a the specter oe was alleged to have sexually "abused" female students for 50 years but was never charged with anything, except financial fraud when he was a monk in Japan running a temple.

People know do not know what Self is, or self-realization, or Satori, easily get fixated on ethics and behaviors.

In my opinion, Sasaki was among the greatest of the Zen teachers in America, if not the greatest. He was like the backbone of Rinzai Zen transmission in America.


27 July 2014

SATSANG TODAY, SUNDAY JULY 27, 2PM CALIFORNIA TIME (PACIFIC)

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Topic:  Self

21 July 2014

Email from Steve

Hi Sri Edji,     Your dearest Charlie is really blessed having you and Kermia as kindred spirits. And a Belated Happy Birthday to Kermia.

I didn't realize the immense changes that took place when my Heart opened at your's and Deeya's retreat last year.  I think all my unresolved conflicts smoldered like a seething volcano -Vietnam Experiences mainly- started on an upward journey.  The overflow caught me off guard and threatened my mind to the point that it wanted to escape the world.

Slowly it has settled in that the mind has lost control and most of the day to day activities are from the Heart Center. The thinking, masculine, aggressive, planning, logic, busy mind has given way to the feminine, heart felt, loving, emotional and feelings of the heart.   This war by the mind  because its power was challenged fostered it losing control had almost cost me this body as the fear from the mind shook me to the core, day after day. 

The darkness was just Black, empty, unexpected, fearful, controlling, and full of the threat of death.

On occasion out of this hell a bliss would surface that would propel me into the highest states of happiness,  pleasure, delight and ecstasy that would balance the scale.  

Translated into what is happening today is:   Emotion and tears that words cannot even fathom.

A Moon that is constantly radiating its white light right into my Heart Center.

A Sun that slowly creeps into my awareness and throws beams of Joy and energy right into my soul.

I hardly move this body because the beauty to behold has always been right in front of me. Its paralyzing in its virtue.

Just a pair of birds flying by, the wind caressing my face, buds on the lilac and new things every day just create a state of perfect happiness that has been there all along.   
The eyes could never see this.  The mind with all its logic and rationalizations couldn't see it either.
  
Such beauty the Heart Center is aware of.  This Heart can see beauty and wonder anywhere it looks, anytime and any place.

The Mind has never met the Heart Center....even though they are both within this essence they will never be aware of each other.

But down the road I can see where the Heart and the Mind are two sides of the same coin...duality at its finest. 

I want to thank you, Guru Edji and Master Deeya for providing such an opportunity that opened the gates of my heart. Words cannot begin to describe the deepest appreciation and respect I have for you both.

Deepest Love,  Steve E.

P.S.  Edji,   Your excellent Satsangs spin the energy even faster.

20 July 2014

NO SATSANG TODAY!

NO SATSANG TODAY, SUNDAY JULY 20!

I got up too late and do not feel well. I exercised too much yesterday and lots of muscles are just screaming at me.

Also, Charlie needs lots of tending. He has maybe a week left alive.  He is still eating, and still kneading the rugs and us, but he is in pain managed by medications.  Feeding him and giving meds take lot's of time in the morning.

Lastly, it was Kerima's birthday Friday and we are celebrating today.

I need to change the time of Satsang back to 2 PM.  Few people are coming at this 1 PM time.  Moreover, few people are reading the blog--only 1/3 as many as two years ago, and a lot fewer are visiting my posts on FB.  SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE.

Anyway, I will sit in silence with any of you who choose to meditate at the usual 1pm time today.

13 July 2014

Online Satsang today, Sunday July 13, 1 PM California time.

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12 July 2014

The ultimate goal of the NSA is total population control--The Guardian article


At least 80% of all audio calls, not just metadata, are recorded and stored in the US, says whistleblower William Binney – that's a 'totalitarian mentality'
William Binney testifies before a German inquiry into surveillance.
William Binney testifies before a German inquiry into surveillance. Photograph: Getty Images
William Binney is one of the highest-level whistleblowers to ever emerge from the NSA. He was a leading code-breaker against the Soviet Union during the Cold War but resigned soon after September 11, disgusted by Washington’s move towards mass surveillance.
On 5 July he spoke at a conference in London organised by the Centre for Investigative Journalism and revealed the extent of the surveillance programs unleashed by the Bush and Obama administrations.
“At least 80% of fibre-optic cables globally go via the US”, Binney said. “This is no accident and allows the US to view all communication coming in. At least 80% of all audio calls, not just metadata, are recorded and stored in the US. The NSA lies about what it stores.”
The NSA will soon be able to collect 966 exabytes a year, the total of internet traffic annually. Former Google head Eric Schmidt once argued that the entire amount of knowledge from the beginning of humankind until 2003 amount to only five exabytes.
“The ultimate goal of the NSA is total population control”, Binney said, “but I’m a little optimistic with some recent Supreme Court decisions, such as law enforcement mostly now needing a warrant before searching a smartphone.”
He praised the revelations and bravery of former NSA contractor Edward Snowden and told me that he had indirect contact with a number of other NSA employees who felt disgusted with the agency’s work. They’re keen to speak out but fear retribution and exile, not unlike Snowden himself, who is likely to remain there for some time.
Unlike Snowden, Binney didn’t take any documents with him when he left the NSA. He now says that hard evidence of illegal spying would have been invaluable. The latest Snowden leaks, featured in the Washington Post, detailprivate conversations of average Americans with no connection to extremism.
It shows that the NSA is not just pursuing terrorism, as it claims, but ordinary citizens going about their daily communications. “The NSA is mass-collecting on everyone”, Binney said, “and it’s said to be about terrorism but inside the US it has stopped zero attacks.”
The lack of official oversight is one of Binney’s key concerns, particularly of the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (Fisa), which is held out by NSA defenders as a sign of the surveillance scheme's constitutionality.
“The Fisa court has only the government’s point of view”, he argued. “There are no other views for the judges to consider. There have been at least 15-20 trillion constitutional violations for US domestic audiences and you can double that globally.”
A Fisa court in 2010 allowed the NSA to spy on 193 countries around the world, plus the World Bank, though there’s evidence that even the nations the US isn’t supposed to monitor – Five Eyes allies Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand – aren’t immune from being spied on. It’s why encryption is today so essential to transmit information safely.
Binney recently told the German NSA inquiry committee that his former employer had a “totalitarian mentality” that was the "greatest threat" to US society since that country’s US Civil War in the 19th century. Despite this remarkable power, Binney still mocked the NSA’s failures, including missing this year’s Russian intervention in Ukraine and the Islamic State’s take-over of Iraq.
The era of mass surveillance has gone from the fringes of public debate to the mainstream, where it belongs. The Pew Research Centre released a report this month, Digital Life in 2025, that predicted worsening state control and censorship, reduced public trust, and increased commercialisation of every aspect of web culture.
It’s not just internet experts warning about the internet’s colonisation by state and corporate power. One of Europe’s leading web creators, Lena Thiele, presented her stunning series Netwars in London on the threat of cyber warfare. She showed how easy it is for governments and corporations to capture our personal information without us even realising.
Thiele said that the US budget for cyber security was US$67 billion in 2013 and will double by 2016. Much of this money is wasted and doesn't protect online infrastructure. This fact doesn’t worry the multinationals making a killing from the gross exaggeration of fear that permeates the public domain.
Wikileaks understands this reality better than most. Founder Julian Assangeand investigative editor Sarah Harrison both remain in legal limbo. 



11 July 2014

Be like this.




06 July 2014

S. REACTS TO TODAY'S SUNDAY SATSANG ON THE SUBTLE BODY AS THE OPENING DOOR TO SELF

Thank you for just focusing on the Subtle Body descriptions. IVe been there in the Subtle Body during meditation in the past, not knowing where I was. Even though words are going to fall short of the actual experience, your ability to describe your own experience as well as the teachings you received on this, is so helpful to me. You've given me some sign posts on the way. No one ever talked me about the importance of exploring and knowing the inner world in a clear way in order to find our true depths. I always had an intuitive sense of wanting to know my inner being in a meticulous but not abstract or philosophical way. Your teaching helps me in a very practical way to do this. I feel real excitement again, beginner's mind, about meditation as self exploration. That's all I've ever really wanted, to explore, to find out what I am. 

I'm both smiling and crying as I write this, happy beyond words for your 'map' and pissed off for all the time I've been floundering around. Thank you, Edji, very much.

05 July 2014

SATSANG ONLINE, 1PM SUNDAY, CALIFORNIA TIME, JULY 6

SUBJECT: JOURNEY INTO SELF: STEP ONE, FINDING AND IDENTIFYING THE SUBTLE BODY.

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Sign in on two different screens with the password  "edji"

Go to top left of video box and activate broadcast in order to get on screen.

THE JOURNEY INTO SELF

This talk is about a journey into your Self.  It is about discovering what you are and it is not about becoming anything other than what you are now.

I feel both sorry for and angry with teachers who preach that there is no self, that the self is only the figment of society, conditioning, and thought. They state that that is necessary is to look within and you will “see” that there is nothing, no internal object, that the word “I” points too.  There is only inner emptiness and a “presence,” of beingness that fills that emptiness, calling this the One, or even the Absolute, and stating this is the “unchangeable” essence of your being.

I am sorry for them because they do not realize how unimaginably short-viewed their vision is; there is so much more to them and to you that they cannot even fathom because they have stopped at no-self, presence, or newness, and they wait for things to “unfold” because they believe there is nothing deeper than beingness.

I am angry with them because they can only take their students as far as they have gone, which is not very far, but it is easy to get where they are and doesn’t take that much effort.  Therefore, they have lots of students who likely will remain at this level for a long, long time because the teaching says there is nothing beyond or prior to beingness.

But I want to invite you on a journey into your Self that will take you much deeper, a journey through “levels” or increasing subtleties of who you are until finally you reach the most subtle level of your own manifestation and knowing- ness, each of which feels more “intimate” and closer to one’s primary sense of existence, one’s essence: the Self.

The first body is, of course, our physical body which interacts apparently with an external world.  The body is a machine, so to speak, a living entity that translates sensual stimulIi into electrical nerve network impulses that the brain turns into a representation that allows us, at a deeper level within, to know, act in, and explore the physical dimension.

This second body, which I’ll call the Subtle Body and is also called the Energy Body, is entirely different from the physical world.  Out of the electrical network and brain, a subjective world of consciousness is created complete with a subjective representation of the external world.  That external world is a figment, or creation, of the consciousness generated somehow by the body, which communicates with the so-called external world through our nervous system.

In this sense, consciousness is self-contained. We, who we are is consciousness and can only know objects in consciousness including the external world. In this sense, we have to trust that there really is an external world independent of our bodies which our representation accurately mirror.  That is, we have to assume as true that there is something external to me, which I cannot see, hear, touch or feel in truth—as I can only experience what that thing appears to be in my consciousness.  I have no idea of what the broccoli that I am eating is really like independent of how it tastes and has texture to me.

This is the basis of the idealist’s viewpoint: all that we can know is consciousness, so why assume there is an external world?  Ramana does not believe there is one, nor does Nisargadatta or Robert Adams.  There is only “me” for them, and every other sentient being is only an object in their consciousness.

Another viewpoint, the realists’ viewpoint, is there are others outside of my consciousness, each of which is and utilizes the same type of consciousness as I do.  Each is a bubble of consciousness somehow aware of other bubbles of consciousness.  There are other variations than this found in philosophy.

But the second body is not really “of” the first body.  It is in an inner, subjective dimension as opposed to the ourward, worldly, physical four dimensions of space and time.

What does this second, or Subtle Body consist of?  It is made up of mind, thoughts, intelligence, images and imaging, the container of emptiness, the sense of presence, the experiences of the body from the inside, like pain and pleasure, movement and stillness, and the experience of inner energies, Chi, Prana, Kundalini, and Merridian energies.

It has an existence as a separate felt body, something like an inner entity, almost ghost-like in form, that spreads throughout the physical body and extends beyond it.  When perceived as a whole it feels like an inner being, inside the body, made of light, energy, and most of “sentience,” being aware of itself, our bodies and the world, but it is not of the world, because it is not made of matter, but of energy and consciousness.  The world is made of matter and consciousness while this Energy Body is made of energy and consciousness.

Becoming aware of this Subtle or Energy Body is extremely important.  Subjectively is feels more “intimate” and closer to my sense of being me than the body.  At this level the body is only a machine, and interface between the Subtle Body and the world.  This is your first proof of Robert Adams’ and Nisargadatta’s assertion that you are not your body.  You are much, much more than that.  Before you know this body intimately, Robert’s assertion that the body and world are unreal is, for you, only a concept and maybe a belief that you hold.

When you know the Subtle Body intimately for a long time, and have explored it and know all its secrets, pleasures and pains, you will identify with it and concerns about the physical body tend to disappear. But you still have to take care of the apparent physical body for it sustains the Subtle Body and allows the Subtle Body to interact and communicate within the physical dimension of space and time.
However, the Subtle Body still is not you.  Though it feels more intimate and closer to “you” who is watching and experiencing it, there is still a you that lies deeper, or perhaps it is better to say, is even more subtle than the Subtle Body, a deeper dimension so to speak.

I will save discussion of the next two dimensions for later.  For a while I will concentrate on meditation and techniques to help you really become aware of and then identify with the Subtle, Energy Body, because it will thus prove to you that you are not the physical body and free you from it and give you increased control over it if you so desire.

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03 July 2014

In You, Are non-Physical "Bodies" Far More Intimate Than Your Physical Body

We Are the Subtle Body even more than the physical body.

We have read that Ramana, Robert Adams, and Nisargadatta say over and over, “You are not your body.”  But for most people, this is just philosophy—a belief.  For most of us, we identify with the body and don’t have enough direct experience of other aspects of ourselves to serve as alternative identifications.

Many advanced meditators after years of practice know both the inner emptiness of the space within, also called the Void, that many identify with it and call it the substrate, the absolute, or newness and beingness: that is the container or screen upon which phenomenal objects appear.  However, this inner space, lighted by itself, is still a phenomenon, and although it does not appear to change, it comes and goes with the states of consciousness (deep sleep, dream sleep, waking), and can disappear when the objects grab hold of out attention.

This inner space is an aspect of what Nisargadatta and his teacher called the Subtle Body, which is the dwelling place of all inner phenomenon, including the I-sense, and all inner energies, such as prana, Chi, Kundalini, etc.

One marked step towards Self-Realization of the manifest Self, the Atman, is to lose primary identification with the physical body when we experience ourselves as an energy body while in ordinary waking consciousness.


This usually starts through experiencing “energies” throughout the body for a long time, which gradually grow both in intensity and frequency of occurrence, but also grow more “subtle” as time passes.

The initial energies may be experienced as tingling or heat, sometimes as vibrations, and sometimes as currents that are felt, and are often associated with flowing colors.  Then these energies can grow to be very powerful, often irritating, burning, shaking, and grow to fearsome intensity where you feel youi can’t tolerate them any more.

For me it was like this.  For many days I felt pretty useless, unwilling to move though forced to at times by my schedule.  But I was fixated on my inner world, the emptiness within superimposed or underlying my experience of my body.

For days there was a growing inner current that entirely filled my body, and not very pleasurable.  My hands trembled and inside I felt a slight vibration.  My body felt heavy, and intensely vibrating as a high frequency.

One day I awoke and I felt happier than for some time because the heaviness and vibration had disappeared.  As I drove to my morning coffee, I suddenly realized I was no longer identifying with my body.  Looking within, I saw only white light inside, and I had a second body, a body of light and sentience, of awareness, an experiencing presence within and I had the sudden knowledge that this was more me than was my physical body.  My body was just the material host for this inner being of light and awareness, which was lighter than a feather and had only a sense of joy. 

But there was also the immediate realization that even this body, though it felt more close an intimate to “me” than my physical body, was still not “me,” or at least the entirety of me, for I was still witnessing this lighted Subtle Body, and my sense of me, the I Am, though it existed here, this was not its home.  But the identification with the body thereafter began to break because the light body was closer to me, my essence.

I know this is just my experience and most of you do not have it, therefore feel free to doubt you have this Subtle or Energy body within “you.”

You know I doubt all science.  Science is just a matrix of concepts, mathematics, experimentation, and imagination.  I have never seen an atom, an electron, curved space, a photon, or even a virus.  All this is second hand knowledge to me, and mostly I accept it as truth for operational purposes, but I really don’t believe in it.

But maybe you do believe.  In that case, consider this.  You know that you do not see the object in-itself directly, but from light that originates in the object, such as from the sun, or is reflected off the object, as a chair, tree, or the moon.  This light enters the eye, hits the retinae, which generates an every changing matrix of signals in the forms of electrical potentials that flow along the optical nerves and are interpreted by the brain which creates—somehow—an inner picture of the external world.  The external world you experience is created in your brain interpreting electrical signals from nerves in the eyes, ears, skin, nose, and mouth, as well as from muscles.

Thus what you know is purely the result of inner electricity which somehow creates our Consciousness, including of our bodies’ and the world.

From this point of view, the body is really just a host for the nervous system and brain, that somehow creates our subjective world as Consciousness.

Since electricity is a form or energy, from this viewpoint, we are electrical or energy beings according to science.

But many of us know of other inner energies and have developed awareness of them through inner exploration and can more easily identify with the energy aspect of our “isness,” as opposed to relying on this scientific explanation.


Any and all of you who experience these energies now should be able to experience yourselves more “deeply” than the body and begin to experience a Self more near and dear to the essence or heart of your being, than the body. With this comes a great freedom and increasing joy and happiness that is just the beginning of an ever deepening awareness of all levels of your Self.

For that inner body, I used the term "energy," but that is only one aspect.  I also used the term "light," but by that I mean a concentrated form of the light of Consciousness that all meditators see after a while.


It is really impossible to convey the experience.  It is just sentience. the ability  to perceive, conceive, love and to know.  It is not exactly the Life Force, but she is there within this Subtle Body.  It is like a "subtle body" of sentience living within the non-sentient meat of our bodies, which supports the Subtle Body and provides the nervous system that converts the material world into Consciousness for the Subtle Body and deeper.