What does
"It is not real" mean for Robert Adams, Ramana
Maharshi, and
Nisargadatta? July 10, 2017
Robert Adams:
All I can do is tell you about my own personal experiences,
not what I read. I can tell you that nothing exists the way it appears.
Everything is an appearance, and we get pulled into these appearances. We react
to them as if they were real, as a result of falling for a false premise, and
the false premise is that the world is real.
In fact, the world is not real and neither are you. What we
have to do is stop reacting to anything. And the only way to do that is to
discover who you are. When you discover your true nature, when you awaken to
your true nature, everything becomes perfectly clear. You're at peace. Your
feelings have been transmuted. You no longer feel what human beings feel. The
world comes and goes. One day the world is like this, the next day it's like
that. But what does it have to do with you? Nothing, you are free. You are not
the world. You are not your body, you are not your mind.
--August 30, 1990
Ramana Maharshi:
The world is a totality of the five kinds of sensations,
namely sounds and the rest, and nothing else. All these are only mental
impressions. Hence, the world is nothing but the mind. Only when their minds are functioning does
the world appear to men. Therefore, the world in the waking state is mental, as
it is in dream.
The truth that the world is unreal is taught by the sages
only to him who aspires to attain the highest state by the quest of the Self.
It is not addressed to others.
(Editor: That is, it is a
teaching device used to help the seeker become aware of that which precedes and
succeeds his body and the world.)
All the divisions experienced in worldly life appear as real
only in relation to the body. (Editor:
the world is real if one accepts one’s body as real; from that viewpoint alone
is the world real and the objects therein.)
Ramana Paravidyopanishad, unknown date, paragraphs 120
through 126.
Nisargadatta:
The “I” which appears is unreal. How unreal it is I have proven. The moment the “I” is proven unreal, who is
it or who knows that the “I” is unreal?
This knowledge within you that knows the “I” is unreal, that knowledge
which knows change, must itself be changeless, permanent. You are an illusion, Maya, an
imagination. It is only because I know
that I am unreal, that I know you also are unreal. It is not like this: because I am real, you
are unreal. It is like this: because I
am unreal, everything is unreal.
—Consciousness in the Absolute— May 1, 1980
The concept that your experience of your body and your
experience of the world are illusory, is a very complex subject with many
different ways to explain it.
The simplest explanation is that stated by Raman in the
quote above. Without mind, there is no body,
no world, no existence. When mind
functions, the world is discovered as is your body. In sleep, when the mind does not function,
there is no you, no I Am sense, no body and no world. When you awaken, at first you are only aware
that you are awake. Then, some fraction
of seconds later, you become aware that you are a body, with an existence, with
a name and form, living in the world. Once awake, we accept the reality of name
and form, that I exist as a body in the world.
Not once do we think of investigating that I-thought or I-feeling in an
effort to “unpack” it into its various components in order to see if any of
those components exist in any way, or are just words that point to nothing.
As long as people identify with their bodies and consider
themselves solid and real, they will also experience all the objects in the
external world as equally real, meaning substantial, objective, solid. Until a person through meditation, self-inquiry,
or listening to the words of a self-realized person, has experiences of
transcending both body and consciousness, the phrase "neither I nor the
world are real," will lead him to try to understand the phrase "not
real" as some variant of negating the reality of one’s body, such as by coming
up with the analogy of a dream body. “My
physical body is like a dream body, existing only while aake.” Or one might
think in terms of space, that the space that contains the body is more real
than the body, and that the body is unreal in comparison. The same holds true for the concept of
consciousness, where we conceive of the body as being an appearance in
consciousness, but consciousness itself permeates all appearances and is
greater than any appearance. That is,
consciousness is everywhere and eternal, and is the substance within which
objects appear.
But until one has examined all levels of one's own
experience of oneself, from experiencing the physical body, to experiencing the
mental body, to experiencing the subtle energy body, to experiencing the great
void within, the emptiness that pervades everything, and even the experience of
not experiencing, will he or she understand how these three gurus use the terms
real and unreal, because then they will have the same exact knowledge as the
teacher. The same exact knowledge is
available to all who study the self.
In the short essay below I will try to cover all the
different approaches or ways to explain what is meant by the term unreal
applied to experience, to the body or to the world.
I want to most forcefully and explicitly state they do not
mean you should stop eating, or deny yourself shelter, or deny yourself
clothes, or not own a car, or not have a job because they are all unreal. They are not saying the world or your body
are not real, therefore live like a zombie totally bereft of feelings,
reactions, or needs relevant to sustaining your body. It does not mean that you should not protect
yourself financially and avoid scammers.
It does not mean you should not have insurance if people depend on
you. It does not mean that if someone in
your family or others in the community have desperate needs, you should not
help them because they are not real, that they are some sort of fake news. They do not mean that if there is a dire
political situation, such as a tyrant arising that will destroy the nation, you
should not insist that they be stopped.
By "not real," they mean that all external and
internal forms, such as your body, your sense of presence, your thoughts, your
emotions, your house, the tree outside your door, are all temporary, are all
ephemeral, all pop into existence, exist for a while, and then cease to
exist. No appearance is permanent. Therefore, every situation in your life is
temporary, a brief appearance that will pass, so do not get too involved in
relationship to them, for you, the perceiver, are always there, outside of
consciousness, outside of the world, outside of your body, existing only as an
observer, while your mind fills in the details of the situations surrounding
you, giving it meaning and drama.
Without the mind making up stories about your situation and your body,
you would be unperturbed by all internal and external events.
This is it. This is
their message. Do not be too concerned
about the external world, because everything in it is just momentary. The real you, to be discovered through
self-inquiry and meditation, is the ultimate observer, the witness, the
principle of knowing, of sentience, of cognition. You are the ultimate knower, seer, hearer,
smeller, taster, feeler, and ultimately of all knowing and sentience. As such you are beyond the physical and
mental worlds altogether, so turn your attention within and find this, which we
give the name That. That is the only
real because it is beyond all appearances of consciousness which are
effervescent, ephemeral, and passing. The
Real, is that which cognizes the unreal, the not real, the play of
consciousness.
But if you take "it is not real" literally, from
the viewpoint that you are human body, a thing, then “not real” means there are
no things, every-thing is only a dream, or a passing nightmare of
consciousness, and you could easily become a zombie, a homeless person, not
eating any meals because your body is not real, your hunger is not real, your
need to pee and to take a crap, are all unreal.
Your wife is unreal, your children are unreal, your mother and father
are unreal, therefore pay them no heed, no attention whatsoever. Ignore them and their problems, because they
are not real. And the naïve seeker then
expands this attitude to all things, shouting aloud “Nothing is real!” Like a crazed Facebook guru.
There is no need to buy insurance, because nothing is
real. Robbers are not real. Murders are not real. Tyrants are not real. Trump is not real. Hitler was not real. They are all just passing appearances, just
as is your hunger, or your thirst, or your feeling chilled or too hot. None of these are real, so just sit in one
place and observe the world, observe your body, observe your emotions and
thoughts, and take no heed of them. Just
turn your attention inside and find your true self, the only real, the only
permanent.
The next important thing you have to understand with regard
to investigating your self-experience and its reality is: “it is not real” is a
teaching message from the teacher to the student who has not yet realized who
or what they are, or for other persons in the audience who may be suffering
from the loss of a loved one, debilitating physical disease, or psychological
or physical pain. This is a message to
look within instead of without into the world, and by looking within one can
find your own permanent truth of who you are.
However, after you discover who you are, the journey inwards has
essentially ended, because the division of inward and outward disappears, and
you discover you are the source of everything and that everything rests inside
of you including the world and your body.
That is, the message “it is not real” is meant for a student, or someone
suffering. It is not meant for someone
who has realized themselves as Self.
That person is fully aware of the rather trivial nature of the external
world and the body compared with the direct apprehension of one’s own self and
its eternal existence. But after
realizing the self, one just cannot continually turn within, because the
division between inner and outer is dead.
One is everything. By this I mean, wherever consciousness is, I am aware
of what it is showing. Whatever appears,
I am there as its witness, whether it be
my body, something felt by it, or a nebulae seen through a
telescope. I am the witness of it all.
Let me go into this a
little more deeply. After realizing through meditation or self-inquiry, that
the boundary between the external experiential world and one’s internal and
experiential sense of presence within an all-pervading emptiness no longer
exists, you become immersed totally in the vastness of consciousness: the
Void. That empty void is the background
or container of all experience, external of the world, and internal of the
various states of consciousness within.
This Nisargadatta calls the totality of the manifest consciousness. This is everything. This is all cognitions, all thoughts, of all
sentient beings with no separation into apparent individual entities. This is the life of the universe itself,
everything experienced by every sentient being everywhere, throughout
time. Identity within individual body or
an individual personality is lost.
Yet there is one more step that needs to be taken before one
becomes a Jnani.
Just resting in this experience of thoughtless now-ness,
just resting in one’s own sense of presence within the totality of experiential
existence and emptiness, is what Nisargadatta ultimately means by resting in
your sense of I Am. After doing this for
some time, something begins to happen.
You begin to escape from feeling totally immersed in your experience of
your body, the world and the totality of consciousness. Up till this time you felt yourself to be a
little cog within the vastness of the extension of your consciousness. You begin to be able to grasp or apprehend
consciousness as a whole, and all at once, as an object that you are
witnessing. After consciousness begins
to transition from self to object, how it affects you also begins to change,
because you see you are separate from it; it is not you. You begin to see that all the vagaries and
appearances within consciousness, all the various states such as sleep and
waking state, all the thoughts that you have, all the sights you see from mountains,
to valleys, to storms, to the ocean, all are not you. You are separate from all of them. You are not touched by anything in
consciousness, where before you thought you were a body that had
consciousness. Now you see that both are
“not-real” in the sense they are not self-sustaining, they depend on you
cognizing and being aware of them, both as separate apparent objects, and as
the ultimate substratum of universal consciousness. Everything depends on you, the source, the
witness. Without you sentience does not
take place.
Most emphatically, "It is not real" does not imply
ignoring injustice or abject stupidity or abject brutality in the world. "It is not real" means do not take
the world too seriously until it hits you in the ass, and you are forced to
take stock, just as you would be if you found you had a cancerous tumor, or
were having a heart attack, or a potential murderer was threatening your life.
Remember, all the while that Robert was teaching about the
world not being real, to take nothing seriously, and to turn all your attention
inside, he was in fact living as a family man, raising two children, as well as
fostering children. He had various jobs
as a handyman, teaching non-smoking classes, producing pirated audiotapes,
etc. It means that he had extensive
dental work done during the last year of his life at age 69 because his teeth
were so bad. He had a whole mouth
reconstruction during the last year of his life. Nisargadatta ran the family business of
selling cigarettes from the time he was 36 to the end of his life at 82. He spent many years speaking with friends and
other devotees of Siddharameshwar regarding the nature of reality, of
consciousness, of birth and death, while he worked on his final understanding
as expressed in his talks in 1978 to 1981, his final teachings, including those
of unreality.
To make this a little more real, pardon the pun, we must
realize these are the teachings of an 80-year-old man who has seen everything
and done everything. For him, the world
had no reality, no meaning. He had seen
and done everything. There was no more interest
in the world for him. He was through
with it. From that point of view, of
being a tired old man that is seen and done everything, nothing in the world
was of any value to him. Even his own
consciousness was of no value to him any longer. He repeatedly says in his last three years, he
was waiting to die, and get the whole thing over with, hopefully without too
much pain or trouble in the process of dying. He wanted to throw away the whole world and
consciousness because they disturbed his peace which he found in his deepest
depths. Compared to that peace that lay
closest to his soul so to speak, nothing was of any value. And in that sense it was not real to
him. He was selling this philosophy to
other people who were suffering, as did Robert.
In this sense, the phrase "it is not real" is a universal
solvent dissolving all suffering based on one's experience in the external
world including pain in the body, rheumatism, arthritis, heart disease, cancer,
poverty, lawsuits, and the scorching heat of the Arizona desert. They exhort others just turn within and find
that peaceful center and take refuge there in the deepest part of your Self.
Q: I really appreciate your continuing efforts to explicate
this fundamental issue, which is so misunderstood. I see it as the
"form" aspect of the form and emptiness dimension. So many
neo-Advaita influenced folks on Facebook seem to (sort of-mostly
intellectually) get the emptiness aspect. They then become so enamored of
emptiness that there is a "sleep and forgetting" of the real world we
all still live in where real suffering occurs and very, very few realize
experientially-in the marrow of their bones- that nothing is real.
Ed: Yes, so true. But emptiness itself is still
experiential, is still consciousness, and nothingness, the so-called real, is
the not knowing of nothingness, not the spaciousness of emptiness or the Void.
Robert always said you have to go beyond emptiness, because emptiness itself is
still consciousness, and itself is a fraud from an experiential point of view,
as a human.
Q2: Much needed
clarification. Edward Muzika could you please clarify whether or not the inward
and outward are 'different' in terms of how they are perceived in the statement
"the division of inward and outward disappears and you discover you are
the source of everything and that everything rests inside of you including the
world and your body." I understand that they are both a manifestation of
my consciousness, but if I close my eyes and go inward after being fully self-realized,
is the inward perception the same as with eyes open or different yet realized
as my consciousness. Do you ever meditate inwardly even though you fully
realize this fact about the inward and outward?
Ed: The experience
varies over time for most. The initial experience is of total emptiness within,
which is experienced as one with the space without. Then, for functional
reasons, the boundary returns. But after that, you are always aware of 1. the
unity; 1. all objects are permeated by emptiness all thoughts and forms are
transient; even consciousness is transient.
Then, later one re-realizes this in other experiences, such
as the realization that everything is consciousness, including the I Am sense,
the body, the external world, emptiness. Just variations of appearances in
consciousness.
Yes, after attending to duties in the external world, I will
invert, sink within to utter peace.
Q3: good post, but
this is where i take umbrage with the dead guru's. "all that changes or
passes" is also this that sees. this that is aware, this that is. simply,
if there is "no other", then even the so-called temporary things in
life is also a manifestation of This One. I am the dream, the dreamer, the ever
changing play. and even the dream is not "un-real", the old saying:
"To say- It is not real, does not mean it is devoid of
existence"........ but what I always end these rants with is, "this
is what i see so far, subject to change as this path seems endless.”
Ed: I have no idea about what you just said. If I were you,
I would focus more carefully and thoughtfully on expressing your intuition as
clearly as you can. I think you might find trouble doing that, but when you
can, you will understand your own internal confusion, which will allow you to
break through.
Q4: Can a pot be real without the clay, the essential
substance pervading the pot.. Pot is name and form that makes clay pot...Clay
can exist independently.. Can pot exist independently without clay. Can name
and form exist independently without the essential substance pervading the name
and form...
When world is described as unreal is from this point...World
strictly speaking like the pot, is name and form with an essential substance
pervading the world, which is the ultimate Truth...
Ed: This is strictly an analogy and is not at all an
explanation. The essence of all is like
clay. So what does that tell me? This explanation might send me to a beach or
a swamp looking for various kind of dirt or clay.
The explanation often given is that everything is consciousness including all
the appearances within consciousness.
But this is still just a concept.
You have to first have the experience that everything is consciousness,
which is a kind of awakening, rather than using well-worn analogies that really
do not help anyone understand anything.
Q5: I have always
wondered why only the permanent is Real, why not the transient and passing also
be Real. It feels like a kind of dogma we are told to believe in. Isn't Real
what exists whether forever or temporary? Why the duality?
Ed: Actually, when
you :feel" that which is beyond consciousness, all elements of
consciousness "feel" unreal. It is an expression about how the world,
one's body, and one's emotions and mind feel when you discover the source. Then
you are far more interested in the source, and the world seems useless in
comparison.
Q5: useless? not what
you said above about caring for cats, opposing Trump, etc. and isn't Compassion
what blossoms after enlightenment?
Ed: You have not been
reading my posts and certainly you never really read this post. All is
explained here, above. Read it. Go to those before and after. Would you fail to
feed cats in a dream? Would you drown babies in a dream? Would you fail to eat
or pee in a dream because it was not real?
Q6: I think it
depends on your level of insight. If a revelation has come and you now see the
world as a substanceless image like a dream or mirage or even further nothing
but emptiness, dark infinity then it would be untrue to yourself not to voice
this. With God also, if you believe in God or not, its only a belief, you are
really an agnostic. You don't really know. But of you have seen the Oneness in
all things then there is a basis to assert the reality of God.
Ed: It is not really
that way. You "see" and apprehend all experiences, all of life and
consciousness in an entirely new way, because you can grasp consciousness as a
whole rather than being immersed in its hugeness. In a sense, you become bigger
than the entire world or consciousness, apprehending it/them as objects
depending on you for their existence. Only you are felt to be real, not the
objects you apprehend.
Q5: i have been
reading your posts and I know of your humanity. I just was reacting to the word
"useless"
Ed: See, caught by
words. React to words and concepts. I am telling you how both Robert and
Nisargadatta felt about life and the world. They had no use for it.