tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post636819450191936043..comments2023-12-16T16:12:08.051-08:00Comments on Self-Knowledge and Self-Realization: Ed Muzikahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13214241089861837159noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-48842327899965309292010-11-02T13:51:58.528-07:002010-11-02T13:51:58.528-07:00Thanks for this, Edji. I am someopne who has been...Thanks for this, Edji. I am someopne who has been reading and reading Advaita and spiritualities for the past 47 years or so (since I was about 15). It has taken a lot of time to "take" in my case...but finally is paying off, as enquiry is becoming a natural demand, and freedom an obvious fact. Ammachi once told me that reading was like looking at a map, but not getting to the destination. But, sometimes spiritual readings feels like a practice, when I allow words to open up, and at times silence, the mind. Moments of authentic enquiry, in my experience, emerges unexpectedly, when words fall like dead weight, and silence takes over mental preoccupations. When we really want it, or "ready" for it, enguiry comes..when we really really want to know what's up--when both the pain and pleasure of the thinking mind becomes transparent. I appreciate greatly this chance for contact - hope to join a satsang some time.<br />-MaxMaxim Kramernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-79901856992341735292010-10-29T20:51:31.516-07:002010-10-29T20:51:31.516-07:00Anger is not always out of place if the person bri...Anger is not always out of place if the person bringing it does so with honesty....I do not agree with any personal attacks on you Ed or anyone (including the "troublemakers") involved in the process here...it is unnecessary...ultimeately, there are no troublemakers, only those who reveal personal thresholds and limitations...this is what extremely profound and rare realization can liberate...density... <br /><br />I had read this 2 nights ago and it upset me...<br /><br />http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/ramesh_balsekar.html<br /><br /><br />"But consciousness as a whole, it can be seen on real awakening, as happening to me, though there is no me to be discovered."<br /><br />I understand what you are saying...and it is well to say it and well said...<br /><br />what I tried to say in my above post Rumi says with love, not agitation...<br /><br />"I am only the house of your beloved,not the beloved herself:<br />true love is for the treasure,<br />not for the coffer that contains it."<br />The real beloved is that one who is unique,<br />who is your beginning and your end.<br />When you find that one,<br />you'll no longer expect anything else:<br />that is both the manifest and the mystery.MattWilliamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12796271878475228564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-14253015212379088412010-10-29T18:22:50.780-07:002010-10-29T18:22:50.780-07:00Dear Ed no you are not lookng at this correctly. T...Dear Ed no you are not lookng at this correctly. There are 2 Pauls on here. I answered the 1st post by a Paul but it's not there now so I assumed it was deleted. If I am mistaken please accept my apologies.<br /><br />Paul2Paul2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-32070951713987611972010-10-29T18:19:40.904-07:002010-10-29T18:19:40.904-07:00Steeped in 40 years of meditation, allow me to sim...Steeped in 40 years of meditation, allow me to simply say this: With my ears shut, I can see in your eyes the presence of extremely profound and rare realization. There is nothing else to say, but I stand honoring that which alive in and through you. I say this because it is so, but also to balance the abuse you receive from fools.Andreasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-79682665214514890472010-10-29T17:59:41.530-07:002010-10-29T17:59:41.530-07:00That is strange Paul. Looking above I see four com...That is strange Paul. Looking above I see four comments from you. I also answered you in an email, unless there are two Pauls commenting on this post.<br /><br />If you have such a strong need to be heard, and run away if 1/5 of your posts don't make it up on this blog for whatever reason, maybe you need your own blog.<br /><br />Normally I have no problem with posts disagreeing to me, except recently there have been a lot of commentors that go on and on about what a jerk I am. I see no need to post those or defend myself and just delete them. <br /><br />I have no idea what you are talking about though.Ed Muzikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13214241089861837159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-25805327956734960272010-10-29T17:35:34.070-07:002010-10-29T17:35:34.070-07:00Well I tried to write my experience Paul however s...Well I tried to write my experience Paul however someone on staff deleted it.<br />I will not post here anymore too many control freaks that want it just their way. Any time some wisdom comes which they Edji and others maybe disagree with they remove the post. This is not being very evolved, it's certainly not a sign of being awaken so goodbye<br />PaulPaulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-84284793156518046962010-10-29T06:25:37.278-07:002010-10-29T06:25:37.278-07:00Hello,
my experience is that regardless of what a...Hello,<br /><br />my experience is that regardless of what awareness,"I am", has experienced it will always try and convince itself, through itself, to itself that it is Absolute....that it no longer exists....that it is free...that it has become IT....that it is IT<br /><br />it must use its own existence to try and complete itself by convincing itself of its purity when it knows it is less than so....the very quality of the "I am" is that it is unsatisfied as it knows it is not IT....and it cannot complete or eradicate itself...<br /><br />so it seeks experiences to convince itself that it is something that is "not"....<br /><br />all human beings, regardless of experience and conviction are I AM and not I....they cannot be the SELF...regardless of what they attempt to create in themselves and others they cannot be NOTHING....<br /><br />what we see in Ramana and Nisgardatta and Robert is also the I AM....conciousness that must return to where it has come from...<br /><br />nothing is nothing....nothing elseMattWilliamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12796271878475228564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-65032225359945180172010-10-28T00:41:59.245-07:002010-10-28T00:41:59.245-07:00Well we can only speak from experiences. Tell us y...Well we can only speak from experiences. Tell us yours.<br /><br />Love<br /><br />PaulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-38435397370272064212010-10-27T22:49:47.218-07:002010-10-27T22:49:47.218-07:00Well there's lies the rub Paul . You are spot ...Well there's lies the rub Paul . You are spot on words can never reveal the truth. Saying consciousness is not real which I understand where Edji is coming from and Niz also said the same are merely concepts.<br />Now concepts are also not real. However you see what my words are doing now so words will never get you where you wish to go. It's just a rinse and repeat action recycling itself. Now this is from my experience and of course it's all a lie anyhow. We, you, me, I whatever can never speak the truth because we, you , I is the truth itself.<br />I feel Edji said it very well that consciousness can be seen but from my own experience beyond consciousness there is no seeing at all, one only has being.<br />peace<br />PaulAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10185973992391774655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-67991971792780090382010-10-27T22:26:44.262-07:002010-10-27T22:26:44.262-07:00Paul,
one more step. Even consciousness is not re...Paul,<br /><br />one more step. Even consciousness is not real but it is happening to me. <br /><br />The objects in oneness are not separable between subject and object, only one.<br /><br />But consciousness as a whole, it can be seen on real awakening, as happening to me, though there is no me to be discovered.Ed Muzikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13214241089861837159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-11206767796397081032010-10-27T22:11:58.995-07:002010-10-27T22:11:58.995-07:00I totally agree, except for this part:
And all el...I totally agree, except for this part:<br /><br />And all else can be seen or interpreted as objects.<br /><br />From my experience there is no-one that sees and there is no interpreter of any objects, there is just seeing, awareness, where no-one can be anything but that, you're right you can't put it in words. Words are totally inadequate.<br /><br />Love<br />PaulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com