tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post5079161807803845457..comments2023-12-16T16:12:08.051-08:00Comments on Self-Knowledge and Self-Realization: Sex Guru or Love-Emptiness, Advaita Teacher?Ed Muzikahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13214241089861837159noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-17188607612015344732013-10-11T11:13:45.428-07:002013-10-11T11:13:45.428-07:00They did not, except for Nisargadatta, teach lovin...They did not, except for Nisargadatta, teach loving the I Am. That is his alone.<br />Ed Muzikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13214241089861837159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-34489732967576260602013-10-10T16:44:07.609-07:002013-10-10T16:44:07.609-07:00Edji: Several of Robert students committed suicide...Edji: Several of Robert students committed suicide when with him or shortly after leaving him. Many people have written to me that they too felt depressed and sometimes suicidal after practicing self-inquiry as directed by Robert and Ramana.<br /><br />Sadhu Om - The Path of Ramana, Part One: Attending to the first person is equal to committing suicide... (Atma Vichara Patikam, verse 7)<br /><br />*<br /><br />Edji: That is why I changed the technique of self-inquiry from looking for the source of where the I-thought arose, which as emptiness, to loving the I Am sense, ... My emphasis is on loving the I Am, which Ramana, Robert, and Nisargadatta point out is the direct highway to the Self, ... Thus, what I teach is pure Advaita, ...<br /><br />Abe: this sounds contradictary to me! Why would you have to change the technique of self-inquiry to loving the I AM sense, when this is the very technique that Ramana, Robert, and Nisargadatta pointed out is "the direct highway to the Self"?! Also, why would they have taught a different technique which made their students suicidal, when they knew that loving the I AM sense is the superior technique?! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-35625497234035818612013-06-22T10:36:01.716-07:002013-06-22T10:36:01.716-07:00Just a thought here, perhaps relegated to the cate...Just a thought here, perhaps relegated to the category of idle speculation: Those who you mention committing suicide did so because of unresolved issues that became unbearable owing to the effect of the meditation enhancing the despair they had. This would suggest that in the way Ken Wilber describes it, those issues would have to be worked out previously then for one to make an optimal transition to meditative practice, else they just remain problematic. And so in that case, it wouldn't have mattered at all if they changed from the more "sterile" emptiness kind of practice to the "loving the I am" practice that you evolved....they'd still be suicidal.<br /><br />MarkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-1745971223617939152013-06-22T03:28:48.308-07:002013-06-22T03:28:48.308-07:00Ed I really enjoyed reading your post. It's an...Ed I really enjoyed reading your post. It's an authentic teaching that addresses a lot of pits in the Nisargadatta/Siddharameshwar recorded teaching. You are a contemporary man who has paved the path into this teaching for many of us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-20988380537502344182013-06-22T00:00:43.550-07:002013-06-22T00:00:43.550-07:00I can't understand, why so many people waste t...I can't understand, why so many people waste their precious time with continuosly finding or even searching for contradictions, mistakes, etc..<br />If they are not in accordance with some teaching or teacher, then they shall ignore them and follow their right teacher or method. Charlynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-66084706867611972002013-06-21T18:55:36.660-07:002013-06-21T18:55:36.660-07:00You see, I find loving someone, loving and welcomi...You see, I find loving someone, loving and welcoming the I Am and other experiences as they arise, far more natural than practicing breathing exercises with visualizations for 15-20 years.<br /><br />Remember, Rajiv practiced Kriya yoga for 12 years before writing me, after which he had an awakening experience within three months after letting go of the visualizations and breathing exercises. <br /><br />I have outlined my path. If you no longer like it, practice whatever way you want for as many years as you want. There is no need to malign my way unless you have already awakened using a different way, and can prove it faster or superior FOR YOU.<br /><br />Read Nisargadatta's Self-Knowledge and Self-Realization to ee the results of a pure Bhaktic approach.Ed Muzikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13214241089861837159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-43335936265523923312013-06-21T18:47:04.696-07:002013-06-21T18:47:04.696-07:00According to who Waldo? Your realization experien...According to who Waldo? Your realization experience, or someone you have read?<br /><br />I know you have bitten of the Kundalini apple, but you thin that is the only way? You just shove aside the Bhaktic approach and explain everything in terms of Shakti because it is a new and apparently totally convincing theory to you?<br />Ed Muzikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13214241089861837159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-12087045131476770612013-06-21T14:13:00.280-07:002013-06-21T14:13:00.280-07:00This is the most amazingly convoluted name-dropper...This is the most amazingly convoluted name-dropper's guide to the spiritual galaxy I have ever read.<br />Sexuality is something that may or may not be present in an already heightened Kundalini/Shakti atmosphere. Ed, you are mistaking symptoms for causes.<br />Just because B is followed A does not imply that B was caused by A. A bell rings and a chicken falls dead; that does not mean the bell killed the chicken.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08477447934293312483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-15605354474046828802013-06-21T12:26:40.313-07:002013-06-21T12:26:40.313-07:00Jai Edji
Love
francescoJai Edji<br /><br />Love<br /><br />francescoAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11474229096560368599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-75237913786836582422013-06-21T08:51:40.567-07:002013-06-21T08:51:40.567-07:00Ed, I just want to say that after three or four ye...Ed, I just want to say that after three or four years of following you, reading every blog post, attending satsangs, talking to you in emails and in person--your message has had a perfect continuity and innocence about it. You have kindly and honestly portrayed to us as best you can your direct experiences of the divine maze as they came with the loving intent of passing on our ability to access those same parts of the maze. Never have I heard from you a real inconsistency or untruth. In fact your honesty has seemed to be at the expense of saving face again and again. <br />Absorbing your teachings for all this time has given me something I never had in the realm of seeking and that is a DIRECTION to go in along with the CONVICTION and TRUST that it is the correct direction. As you know, being lost in the spiritual realm is so horrible and time consuming. This is what you have thus far helped me avoid and for that I am eternally grateful. Yes your message has seemed to change a bit, but it hasn't altered my particular practice much at all, only enhanced it and given it more energy. The inward, selfward direction is the same, but has taken on colors of feeling and love instead of just a mental attitude...<br /><br />Thank you Ed!<br /><br />richAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com