tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post4217550417122371381..comments2023-12-16T16:12:08.051-08:00Comments on Self-Knowledge and Self-Realization: Three Letters of Joy From Steve and My Long ReplyEd Muzikahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13214241089861837159noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-50344595204960158522014-11-11T08:49:31.465-08:002014-11-11T08:49:31.465-08:00I agree. This is christian but beyond what the Chu...I agree. This is christian but beyond what the Church teaches. The Church teaches imitatio-christie ( imitation of Christ). But Jung was one of the first to discover imitatio christie is not possible without understanding the unconscious first, which is what you are saying here. There is a long road of Self-discovery before one can imitate christ. In your framework, that is the first two realizations. The third is acting like christ with all the involvement in suffering, vulnerability, energies and miracles were the mind does not exist. Total agreement! Who is teaching this so clearly now other than you? Kashmiri Shaivism comes close in theory but I have not found any living examples that are not mired in tradition.<br /><br />Thanks.<br />BobAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-84904248753692854192014-11-10T16:15:51.422-08:002014-11-10T16:15:51.422-08:00I kinda understand people who cannot tolerate this...I kinda understand people who cannot tolerate this teaching. at first you feel very resistant , like ' i run from human and you say come back, fuuuuuuuck... ' and then if you are lucky enough you factually feel deep inside 'unfortunately this is the truth he is talking' - it just resonates. i want fancy high seat , looking down to life and having nothing to do with it, but actually so many people i met who plunge into spirituality just want recognition and love (thats why they are in the rush to become 'teachers' ). since i was 7~ i felt this way from time to time, just simply wanted love, but as you grow up you make this 'goal to be loved' hidden behind some kind of 'cloth' ranging from demonic actions like demeaning other to feel a value in yourself to something angelic like being kind and open because then you feel loved. it is kinda difficult to explain these mechanics... since i first came to you i never doubted your 'qualification', only my readiness.... always postponing....<br />i was kinda satisfied for a period of time with experiences God gave me (astral, getting a hammer blow to the brain and waking up from conceptual and constant thinking processes, seeing Ramana, Shiva in visions and getting teachings which led to short experiences of vastness, where you are kinda totally out of the world, totally free, feeling no body, no world, no thoughts, but still existing (i believe this is the Void you talk about)).<br />I don't remember how i found your orange site, but i do remember that all my experiences stopped the moment i came here and started hearing you.<br />I talk in a past tense, because you cannot be 'satisfied' all the time with some experiences and insights, there is still some 'uncertainty' like ' so wtf am i ? after all these years? ', no actual experience of the Living Divine Within, it is so familiar when you talk about the uncertainty of who you are until Self is revealed...<br /><br />I just wanted to say - You Are Not For The Masses - Sorry About That. Only one-two-three people find precious brilliant under the Earth - it is rare and not for the masses. It is presented to the masses , you can buy it if you can, but who can? you need to have cash (openness and the most important - courage). So i wish myself and others too - to have courage not only to listen to Ed, but have courage to follow the path.<br />This is very important Ed, better 20 strong trees that will make the foundation of new earth, than billion leaves that will disappear on the first strong wind blow.<br />Thank you for reading.<br />Arvydashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17982778362765372915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-54729356983765487742014-11-10T13:18:15.046-08:002014-11-10T13:18:15.046-08:00Edji, you can add this to the post I learned it in...Edji, you can add this to the post I learned it in AA. 'Keep coming back, it works if you work it' and 'Sit down, shut up and listen'. steveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-45482623969734144892014-11-10T13:11:41.915-08:002014-11-10T13:11:41.915-08:00Perhaps so few listen to such obvious truth becaus...Perhaps so few listen to such obvious truth because for many, the truth might not be so obvious after all. Just becoming completely human by immersing in all of life, emotions and suffering might not be all so simple for people who have a lifelong training of closing in the face of emotions. When people who really want to open up run away in fear and anger, they are apparently not well prepared for staying open to these emotions at this stage. Is this really the best advice on how to break the habit of following the mind instead of staying with feelings? For me, Devotional Advaita as described in the last post is way to complicated. But my stage is clearly kindergarten spirituality as it is sometimes called on this site. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27560333.post-18760501809713486532014-11-10T12:57:23.346-08:002014-11-10T12:57:23.346-08:00Sri Edji, For me at 67 years old and a book full ...Sri Edji, For me at 67 years old and a book full of horrendous experiences many which have tailed me from Vietnam...I think the mind most certainly didn't want to give them a good look and I did come very close to annihilating this body like many veterans have already done. What happened to stop it? You Edji, I had total and complete faith in you (some others tried to discourage me) and it was that strong faith and absolute commitment to you that made the difference. At times the depression was so so bad that Death actually visited me and shut down my body...I asked Death to take me right now as I couldn't move....then Mr. Death just slowly disintegrated like a puff a smoke. I realized that it was my True Self that said this and then knew in my Heart that Death had no power over the Self.<br />When I first met you I thought your reply's to my questions were very direct and some may have pissed me off but your answers were always straight on. So within one month I knew you were legit and honest and Self-Realized. Other teachers playing the money game would have popped out a generic answer to keep the income flowing into their pockets. But you kicked my butt to keep me on the path. Our minds have developed a scenario over time that forces a Guru to jump through hoops (Guru's don't do this, gurus don't do that...all sorts of nonsense). And the Mind wins 'again and again, lifetime after lifetime.<br />When my commitment to this path became TOTAL...about 2 years ago...the desire also became TOTAL. I have felt like a man underwater and I have to get to the top to get air...I need to get to the top...the drive is like a 500 hp motorcycle, nothing is going to stop me (family, friends, other devotees, etc.) <br />When I met my wife for the first time my Heart was literally on Fire for over a year...I knew then that her and I had made a commitment back in time to come together and go back Home together. She practices and also teaches our cats, rabbits and fish about the Self.<br />For me I had to see through the meaninglessness of physical possessions, attachments, past programming and beliefs to see the beauty within all these things.<br />You know what I have no idea what the hell I am saying or even who I am. But the music I am listening to right now has become me and I am the notes and harmony are me. I have never seen or felt such bliss and beauty...getting lost again. see ya, steve<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com